virginia or southern california or texas, where i spent most of my adult life. i am not sure it is true that everyone has a negative attachment to immigration, but on the other hand, the conversation about undocumented has cast something on immigration. united states as well as europe and many other countries, including china, looking at our current demographic situation, we will turn to immigration because our fertility is approaching at or below replacement levels. we see this already. china has been looking at the fact that their one-child policy is leading to an older society. immigration and becomes another way that they can continue the economic vitality, said to me, immigration and vitality are closely linked, and i think that is many true -- true for many people in the united states, not so sure about politicians. >> reminding people that the story of america is the story of entrepreneurship, and that is also a story of immigration. some of the most iconic companies. it is not just a recent tech phenomenon. i believe the reason it is so controversial mea